Kinross Gold (TSX:K) reported third-quarter financial results on Thursday. The transcript from the company’s third-quarter earnings call has been provided below.
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Summary
Kinross Gold reported strong financial performance, generating over $1.8 billion in free cash flow for the first nine months and ending the quarter with $2.6 billion in cash.
The company increased shareholder returns to 50% of free cash flow, repurchasing approximately 5% of outstanding shares over six quarters and returning over $950 million to shareholders in 2026.
Kinross Gold’s growth projects in the U.S. and Chile are progressing well, with significant advancements in mine life extensions and project execution planning.
The company maintained its 2026 production guidance of 1.84 to 1.86 million ounces and expects similar production levels for 2027, with a focus on cost management and safe operational execution.
Sustainability efforts are ongoing, with notable achievements in environmental restoration and community support, earning recognition in Chile for educational contributions.
Management highlighted strong operational performance at key mines like Paracatu and Tasiast, while addressing challenges at smaller assets like La Coipa due to weather impacts.
Kinross Gold is actively managing safety concerns following tragic incidents at its Bald Mountain and Round Mountain operations, emphasizing the importance of safety across its sites.
Future investment decisions will continue to focus on internal resource development, with ongoing evaluations of potential external opportunities as the sector presents attractive valuations.
Full Transcript
Carli (Operator)
Thank you for standing by. My name is Carli and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Kinross Gold third quarter 2026 results conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker’s remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad.
If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to David Shaver, Executive Vice President. Please go ahead.
David Shaver (Executive Vice President)
Thank you and good morning. In the room with us today on the call we have Paul Rowlandson, CEO, and from the Kinross Senior Leadership team, Andrea Freeborough, Bernard Wessels, Will Dunford, and Jeff Gold. For a complete discussion of the risks and uncertainties which may lead to actual results differing from estimates contained in our forward-looking information, please refer to page 3 of this presentation, our news release dated October 28, 2026, the MD&A for the period ended September 30, 2026, and our most recently filed AIF, all of which are available on our website.
I will now turn the call over to Paul.
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Thanks, David, and thank you all for joining us this morning. I will discuss our third quarter results, provide high-level updates from across our portfolio, comment on our sustainability achievements and confirm our outlook. I will then hand the call over to the team to provide further details. Before we begin discussing the quarter, and in keeping with our first priorities, I would like to address a very important matter with regards to safety. We are deeply saddened by the tragic loss of two employees of business partners at our Bald Mountain operations in Nevada. We extend our sincere condolences to their families, friends, and colleagues. The safety of every individual at our sites is our highest priority and we are committed to learning from these incidents and reinforcing our safety controls across our operations.
Turning now to our results, following a strong H1, our portfolio delivered on our updated commitments for the third quarter. Both Tasiast and Paracatu, our two top-tier low-cost assets, were key contributors and together accounted for more than half of our production at attractive operating costs. In La Coipa and Round Mountain, the two smaller assets behind the near-term guidance update, we delivered in line with our updated expectations. In terms of cost, we continue to hold the line on total operating costs and delivered strong operating margins.
All this translated to free cash flow of over $1.8 billion through the first nine months, and we ended the quarter with significant financial strength including $2.6 billion in cash. This enabled us to increase our shareholder returns from 40% to 50% of our free cash flow and we have now returned over $950 million to our shareholders year to date. I am pleased to report that over the last six quarters we have repurchased approximately 5% of our outstanding shares.
Turning now to our growth projects, our project pipeline is advancing as we continue to make strong progress across our mine life extensions and growth opportunities. In the U.S., the team continues to progress our three high-quality projects: Phase X, Redbird, and Curlew. At Great Bear, both the advanced exploration and the main project are advancing well. In terms of AEX, we continue to make strong progress advancing the north and south exploration declines for a combined total of over 500 meters of underground development completed to date.
With respect to the main project, both detailed engineering and permitting are advancing well and we remain on track for first production in late 2029. In terms of permitting, we continue to work closely with the authorities and are significantly advanced on the federal and provincial permitting process, and in parallel we are actively engaging with the local communities and Indigenous partners through regular community meetings, ongoing collaboration, and transparent communication, which Jeff will comment on later.
Moving across to growth in Chile, last quarter we provided an updated view of Lobo-Marte, highlighting its strong production profile, low cost structure, and attractive economics. And in Q3 we continued to advance permitting, detailed engineering, and execution planning towards targeted first production in the early 2030s. Turning now to a few remarks on sustainability, in Q3 we continued to make meaningful impact across our regions. Three highlights include our work with Trout Unlimited on the Cripple Creek Restoration Project in Alaska, which focused on restoring waterways and fish habitat impacted by non-Kinross historic mining. We also supported recovery efforts following the Tok Wildfire in Alaska, including emergency assistance for families whose homes were rendered uninhabitable.
And in Chile we were proud to receive the Mining Foundation of Chile’s Award for Commitment to Territories and Education, recognizing our support for education, training, and opportunities in the Atacama region. Turning now to our outlook, the broader portfolio continues to perform well. Operations at La Coipa and Round Mountain have stabilized and we are firmly on track to deliver our updated production guidance of 1.84 to 1.86 million ounces. Looking ahead, we remain focused on safe operational execution, cost management through productivity initiatives, delivering our grade enhancement strategy, maintaining our strong financial position, disciplined capital allocation, and advancement of our high-quality resource base and project pipeline.
With that, I’ll now turn the call over to Andrea.
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
Thanks, Paul. I will review our financial highlights from the quarter, provide an overview of our balance sheet and return of capital, and comment on our outlook. We delivered Q3 as per our updated plan, with production and cost in line and a significant amount of capital returned to shareholders. Through our dividend and increased share buyback plan, we produced 425,000 ounces and sold 410,000 ounces, with the difference a function of timing of ounces.
Total cost of sales was $1,485 per ounce and all-in sustaining cost was $1,947 per ounce through the first nine months. Our production cost of sales was $1,396 per ounce and our all-in sustaining cost was $1,827 per ounce, both tracking well towards our updated full-year guidance. Q3 margins were strong at approximately $2,750 per ounce. Our adjusted earnings were $0.50 per share in the quarter and our adjusted operating cash flow was $831 million in the quarter and over $3 billion through the first nine months.
Attributable adjusted free cash flow was $391 million when excluding the impact of working capital outflows. Working capital outflows primarily reflected an increase in short-term stockpile balances at Mancheu along with lower payables and higher prepaid, all of which are a function of timing. Free cash flow was also impacted by the timing of ounces sold given the bank holiday on September 30. The unsold ounces at the end of the quarter were sold in early October.
Turning now to our balance sheet and return of capital, we ended the quarter with $2.6 billion in cash and $1.9 billion in net cash. During the quarter, S&P upgraded our credit rating to BBB flat with a stable outlook, consistent with our ratings at both Moody’s and Fitch. With respect to our return of capital, in September we increased our commitment from 40% to 50% of our full-year free cash flow through both dividends and share repurchases. We believe our shares continue to represent a strong return on invested capital considering our even more attractive valuation and free cash flow yield.
In Q3, we accelerated our buyback program and repurchased a total of 8.6 million shares for $230 million. We also continued to pay our quarterly dividend of approximately $50 million. Combined, our total return of capital in the first nine months represented approximately 46% of our attributable free cash flow, an increase from 37% in the first half of the year. Subsequent to quarter end, we repurchased an additional $100 million in shares and we remain on track to achieve our 50% commitment by the end of this year.
Since resuming our share buybacks in April 2025, we’ve repurchased over $1.4 billion in shares, representing approximately 5% of our outstanding share count. Including our dividends, we have returned over $950 million to date in 2026 and over $1.7 billion since the start of 2025. These results reflect the strength of our cash flow generation and our ongoing commitment to delivering meaningful returns to shareholders while continuing to invest in our business and further strengthening our balance sheet.
Turning now to our guidance, we remain on track to deliver our updated production cost of sales and all-in sustaining cost guidance. Production is expected to be between 430,000 and 450,000 ounces in the fourth quarter to deliver 1.84 to 1.86 million ounces for the year, and we’re on track to meet our updated cost of sales guidance of $1,420 to $1,460 per ounce and all-in sustaining cost guidance of $1,850 to $1,900 per ounce. We are also on track with our original capital guidance range of $1.5 billion plus or minus 5%.
Looking ahead to 2027, as noted in our September update, we also expect production in the range of 1.84 to 1.86 million ounces. In terms of 2027 capital, as previously noted, our $1.5 billion guidance range remains subject to inflation and incremental project additions to support production in the 2030s. We’re actively evaluating incremental investment opportunities to unlock value from our significant resource inventory. This includes the Fort Knox Phase 11 extension and other targeted opportunities across the portfolio to add ounces and extend mine life.
Will is going to discuss these later in the call. Our annual budgeting process is underway and we will provide detailed 2027 production, cost, and capital guidance with our year-end results. Looking forward to 2028, our grade enhancement strategy is expected to drive higher production relative to 2027 and provide an organic offset to inflation with the addition of higher-grade ounces from Phase X, Curlew, and Tasiast. With that, I’ll now turn the call over to Bernard.
Bernard Wessels (Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer)
Thank you, Andrea. I’d like to begin by acknowledging the tragic loss of two business partner employees at our Round Mountain operation in Nevada. We are deeply saddened by these incidents, and our thoughts remain with their families, friends, and colleagues. As Paul noted, safety of everyone at our sites is our highest priority. Following these incidents, we held company-wide safety stand-downs to reflect, reinforce, and share learnings across the business.
Going forward, we will maintain our relentless focus on fatality prevention and reinforce our risk management programs. We continue to be committed to visible leadership, disciplined execution, and the active management of everyone walking through our gates. Turning now to our operations, starting with Paracatu, the mine continued to perform exceptionally well, with increasing ore tonnes mined and stronger throughput driving significant free cash flow. The production of 146,000 ounces at a cost of sales of $1,202 per ounce was on plan. Paracatu remains on track to meet its guidance of 600,000 ounces and the target cost of sales of $1,240 per ounce.
At Tasiast, our lowest cost operation has delivered another excellent quarter with strong throughput and mining performance. Production of 120,000 ounces at a cost of sales of $1,072 per ounce was on plan and remains on track to meet its guidance of 505,000 ounces at a target cost of sales of $1,050 per ounce. At La Coipa, we produced 29,000 ounces at a cost of sales of $2,194 per ounce. As highlighted in the September update, La Coipa was one of the few assets impacting our near-term production in 2026 and 2027. Production was lower quarter over quarter primarily due to unprecedented winter weather, with restricted access to the ore needed to maintain our targeted mill feed blend. This reduced mining rates and ultimately impacted mill throughput. Simultaneously, we encountered higher-than-expected copper grades in portions of the sulfide ore, which added blending complexity.
Operations have since recovered from the weather disruptions, and both mining and mill activities have stabilized. To manage the higher copper grades and improve recoveries, we are rebuilding ore stockpiles while strengthening our ore control to maintain the right blend through the mill. As part of a continuous improvement program, we increased oxygen and lead nitrate usage and are advancing mill optimization. These actions have started to deliver results, with mill throughput stabilizing and, more importantly, the impact is on the near term as La Coipa provides transition to Lobo-Marte, which remains the key long-term value driver for us in Chile.
Turning to our U.S. operations, combined, the U.S. sites delivered production of 129,000 ounces at a cost of sales of $1,996 per ounce. At Fort Knox, production was 72,000 ounces at a cost of sales of $1,938 per ounce. Production reflected more maintenance activities and planned lower grades during the quarter, partially offset by improved mill recoveries. At Bald Mountain, production was 29,000 ounces at a cost of sales of $1,616 per ounce. Production reflected higher tonnes placed on the heap leach pads, partially offset by lower grades due to planned mine sequencing, and I’m pleased to report that we poured our first gold from Redbird 1 in early October, which combined with Redbird 2 extends lives into the early 2030s. At Round Mountain, as planned, we started to see higher leach grades and incremental improvement in recoveries, resulting in higher production quarter over quarter.
Production of 27,000 ounces was higher, and cost of sales of $2,557 per ounce were lower. Despite higher production, it was below our original expectation, and Round Mountain was the second of the two smaller assets impacting our near-term production profile. This was a result of lower-than-planned leach recoveries. Slower mining rates driven by increased selective mining operations have started to stabilize as we continue to implement initiatives to improve performance around downtime, and we are noticing improvement in mill reconciliation and recovery, with 60% recovery in the third quarter compared to 44% recovery in the prior quarter.
Before I hand over to Will, I would like to touch on a few other updates. In terms of weather events, we are closely monitoring the potential impacts of El Niño and preparing for different weather conditions across our South American operations. In Chile, our focus is on managing increased snowfall and maintaining safe site access, while at Paracatu we are preparing for both heavy rainfall and potential drought conditions. Our teams have detailed plans in place to support safe and reliable operations.
With regards to productivity improvements, we continue to see strong results from our continuous improvement programs focused on productivity and cost discipline. Building on that work, we have launched our Critical Success Factors initiative, which focuses each operation on a few priorities that matter most to deliver against plan, clear ownership, measurable targets, and disciplined execution. With that, I will now pass the call over to Will.
Will Dunford
Thanks, Bernard. Turning to the depth of our resource, with more than 27 million ounces of M&I and an additional 17 million ounces of inferred, we continue to have a strong resource inventory for future development across our portfolio. Building on that depth, our technical teams are advancing studies for several mine-life extension opportunities, similar to what we saw with the three U.S. Growth projects announced earlier this year. These internal projects provide significant optionality to invest further capital in our business, strengthen our existing assets, extend mine lives in the 2030s, and create value for our shareholders.
We are focused on completing robust technical work on these projects to support our capital allocation decisions, and we’ll continue to assess margins, risk, and returns as we make investment decisions. Turning now to our three U.S. Growth projects, these projects represent an important next phase for our portfolio, adding higher-grade, lower-cost production, significantly extending mine lives, and adding value to shareholders by reinvesting in our existing operating footprint and resource base. We are pleased to report that execution is progressing well across all three projects, with development, engineering, and construction activities advancing significantly over the last quarter.
Starting with our Curlew project in Washington, we are making significant progress across both the mill refurbishment and tailings dewatering plant. At the tailings dewatering plant, work outside the building on tanks and the thickener is nearing completion ahead of winter, and work inside the building is progressing well on installation of structural steel and mechanical equipment. The mill refurbishment contractor ramped up work substantially this quarter, with demolition work progressing well and installation of the new CIL tanks underway.
Work at the mine is also progressing well, with underground development ahead of schedule, initial reaming of the main ventilation raise now complete, and construction of a new dry and maintenance facility largely complete. Overall, these activities are on track for first production at Curlew in 2028. Moving to Redbird at Bald Mountain, we saw first production from Redbird 1 earlier this month, and pre-stripping and construction activities for Redbird 2 are progressing well. Engineering and procurement for the SART plant has also progressed well, with detailed engineering now 30% complete and early procurement of long-lead items underway. Additionally, permitting for the Redbird 2 satellite pits was completed this quarter, putting us on track to begin mining those pits in 2027 as planned.
And at the Phase X project at Round Mountain, we are approximately 8% ahead of schedule on underground development, with over 9,600 meters completed to date, further de-risking our path to first production in 2028. In parallel, engineering, procurement, and early works for both surface and underground infrastructure continue to progress on plan, and we continue to ramp up operations readiness, positioning the team for a smooth transition into operations as we move towards initial production.
Infill drilling has also progressed for the early stoping horizons of Phase X, and we have seen positive results indicating higher tons and ounces contained in our first stopes than what was modeled in our resource. This is driven by improved continuity of mineralization as we drill on a tighter spacing, allowing us to take a bulkier stope and more ounces than planned. You can see here some impressive intercepts, including 80 meters at 10 grams per tonne, that show potential to increase both the grade and tons delivered from this stope versus the resource model, which showed around 40,000 tons at 4 grams per tonne for this particular stope.
While still early, these results are encouraging, adding confidence to the initial mining inventory and supporting the planned production ramp-up. We also continued extensional drilling in Q2 and intersected an impressive zone of mineralization, 11.7 grams per tonne over 27 meters, about 300 meters down dip of our initial resource at depth, aligned with our thesis for this deposit. This drilling continues to show potential for mineralization extending down dip, extending the resource base and mine life.
Here you can see some highlights on a few of the additional potential investment opportunities for our next phase of projects from within our resource base. First, at Fort Knox we are continuing to advance work on the next potential open-pit layback, Phase 11. This layback of the existing pit contains approximately 2 million ounces and has potential to meaningfully extend our long-standing tenure in Alaska. We view this as a lower-risk project given that the majority of capital would be for routine work for our Fort Knox team, including waste stripping and heap leach pad expansions.
Study work is progressing well and we are expecting to release a project update in H1 2027 and could start pre-stripping as early as next year. At Tasiast, studies are continuing to progress on both open-pit and underground extensions at West Branch, where the high-grade core of the deposit continues at depth. We are also continuing to explore and study satellite pit optionality to bring additional ounces into the profile from opportunities such as Fennec, which was added last year.
At Bald Mountain, we’re continuing to unlock a resource base across our large land package. Our current focus is on the Top area, where the larger Top open-pit pushback and smaller Top satellite pit are being studied. These opportunities could potentially further extend mine life beyond Redbird in the 2030s. Lastly, at Lobo Marte we are pleased with permitting progress to date, which is on track after our EIA was accepted for review by Chile’s environmental authority in early Q2 2026. We are starting to progress detailed engineering and are in the process of project execution planning to target first production in the early 2030s. Lobo Marte is a strategic focus for us alongside Great Bear and a key piece of our grade enhancement strategy given the strong potential production profile and margins driven by the high grade and low strip ratio of this asset.
La Coipa is another area where we have significant optionality both in our resource base and in our exploration projects. The first phase of the optionality is the oxide extensions that sit in our resource and are currently in permitting and on our site. These are laybacks of existing pits, and they have the potential to start contributing in 2028 after we complete mining of the current pits Puren 2 and Phase 7 in 2027. Bernard spoke about some higher-than-expected copper grades that we saw at La Coipa this quarter.
Although this negatively affected near-term production, these high-grade sulfides at the bottom of the existing oxide pits represent our second phase of optionality. On that front, we are undertaking exploration to define an inventory and a PFS to explore potential for a flotation plant to add on to the existing circuit to process high-grade sulfides. This is early stage, with potential for the mid-30s post-oxide extensions. The third phase of optionality at La Coipa is the potential for a large copper porphyry deposit deeper on the property that is feeding the large number of surface deposits that we have mined historically.
This is longer-term optionality and would be a different scale of operations at La Coipa and is only in the early exploration stage right now, with deep drilling underway to try to find a copper porphyry. Turning now to Great Bear, we continue to advance the AEX program in parallel with permitting, detailed engineering, and procurement for the main project. Surface construction is now substantially complete, with all infrastructure in place to support underground development. Both declines are advancing well, with over 500 meters completed to date on a combined basis for the main project. Manufacturing is underway on several long-lead equipment packages, including the mill motors, transformers, and power plant generators.
We’ve also awarded the construction contract for the administration and shop facilities. Detailed engineering is progressing well and is now over 55% complete. We expect to substantially complete detailed engineering in the first half of next year and we’ll provide a CAPEX update on the back of that. We do expect capital to be higher than the PEA, as it will reflect approximately three years of inflation, a competitive contractor and skilled labor market, and scope changes and enhancements we make as we move through detailed engineering. However, given the high grade, significant production scale, and low anticipated costs at Great Bear, we expect a high return and quick payback on the capital. We are focused on building a robust, reliable top-tier mine.
Given the quality of the resource base and the multi-decade production potential, we’re excited to now be progressing underground with AEX, seeing the future of Great Bear taking shape. I will now hand it over to Jeff for an update on permitting at
Geoff Gold (President)
Great Bear. Thanks, Will. As Paul noted, the permitting timeline for the main project continues to remain on track. We continue to work closely with the authorities and are significantly advanced on main project federal and provincial permitting, which I will speak a little further about. Federally, we are progressing the Impact Assessment process and have formally responded to the information requests received to date. As previously noted, a final decision on our Impact Statement is required by the late spring of 2027 in order to facilitate the early works and construction permits needed from the federal and provincial authorities to commence construction of the mine during the summer of 2027.
Provincially, the integrated One Project, One Process, also known as 1P1P, permitting continues to proceed in accordance with our overall project permitting timeline. We have submitted most of our key early works permitting applications and expect to receive our final Indigenous Consultation Plan shortly, another milestone under the provincial permitting process. We believe that signing an Impact Benefits Agreement, also known as an IBA, with Lac Seul and Wabigoon First Nations will benefit the overall permitting process and is important to maintaining our project permitting timeline.
In that regard, we continue to make good progress on our IBA agreement. As previously disclosed, we signed a Memorandum of Understanding detailing the key financial arrangements and First Nations accommodations for the IBA, and we are currently in the process of advancing the non-financial aspects of the agreement, including the results of our First Nations independent impact assessment work. Lastly, and as previously noted, we have already signed a Collective Benefits Agreement with the Northwestern Ontario Métis Community.
So overall, we have made meaningful progress with our Indigenous communities, and with that I will now turn the call over to Paul for closing remarks.
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Thanks, Jeff. To conclude, Q3 demonstrated the resilience of our portfolio and we remain on track for our 2026 updated guidance. Looking forward, we are excited about our future. We have a resilient production base with a clear path to higher-grade production starting in 2028. We have a competitive relative cost position. We have an excellent balance sheet. We have an attractive return of capital. We have an exciting pipeline of both exploration and development opportunities.
We are very proud of our commitment to responsible mining that continues to make us a leader in sustainability. In closing, when we look at the strength of our portfolio, our strong free cash flow generation and our financial position against our valuation today, we believe our shares offer an even more exceptional investment opportunity, and with that, operator, I’d like to open up the line for questions.
Carli (Operator)
Thank you. At this time I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We’ll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question is from the line of Matt Murphy with BMO Capital Markets.
Matt Murphy (Analyst at BMO Capital Markets)
Morning. Thanks for all the updates, and good to hear that projects are going well. First question, just on the trajectory for CapEx, is it fair to say you’ll be sort of at the upper end of CapEx guide this year just based on the pace so far, and is there anything you can say about the pace in 2027? I know you’ve got the 1.5 billion but still the, you know, subject to inflation and project advancement. Any thoughts around, you know, is the 440 rate—like should we be continuing to run with that as sort of a quarterly cadence, or could it be higher?
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
Hi Matt, it’s Andrea. I’ll take that. To start, for this year, for Q4, probably a bit of an increase in Q4 on both sustaining and growth. On sustaining, I think the second half will end up being about equal to the first half, and it’s kind of been a bit up and down through the quarters. And on the growth side, we have seen that ramp up a bit through the year just as the growth projects are ramping up. So that probably takes us somewhere in the midpoint to upper end of the guidance by the time we close out this year, but still within that guidance range.
As we look to next year, we have the 1.5 billion range again out there, but we’ve always said that’s subject to inflation and ongoing project approvals. So we’re just in the budget process now and we’ll see where we come out on that. But some examples of things we’re looking at that are still in the assessment process are Fort Knox Phase 11. If we do approve that, we’ll start spending on that next year. And then there’s some other potential incremental opportunities that we continue to look at that are really to address production in the 2030s.
Matt Murphy (Analyst at BMO Capital Markets)
Okay, thanks. I look forward to a post-budgeting update. And anything you can share on working capital? Bit of a drag in Q3. Does that reverse in Q4?
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
I’d call it temporary. I think some of it likely reverses in Q4. We’ll probably have and probably swing the other way in Q4—it’s kind of typical for us. One of the big pieces in Q3 was short-term stockpiles, so that was at Manh Choh, and some of that will come out in Q4. But we might see that kind of continuing just because we stop mining before we stop processing. So we’ve mined through the end of next year, and there’ll be some stockpiles throughout that time period because we do continue processing beyond that.
But things like, you know, the payables and prepaids, those will reverse as we go through Q4.
Matt Murphy (Analyst at BMO Capital Markets)
Okay, thank you.
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
And then I guess last, we did have a bit of additional finished goods just at the end of the quarter, and that was that sales lagged behind production, and that all got sold in early October.
Carli (Operator)
Your next question is from the line of Fahad Tariq with Jefferies.
Fahad Tariq (Analyst at Jefferies)
Hi, thanks for taking my question. On Round Mountain, it looked like it was quite a bit better than the second quarter. Milled grades were 0.73 grams per ton. Recovery was 60%. I think the throughput was a five-quarter high. I’m just trying to reconcile that with the September update, and I guess the answer is it’s lower relative to the mine plan. So maybe if you could just touch on what the expected, I guess, operating metrics were according to the original mine plan, that would be helpful.
Bernard Wessels (Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer)
Thank you. Bernard speaking here. Certainly we have seen the improvements as we’ve mentioned in our press release. We’re starting to see improvements both on the grades that we’re seeing from phases coming through as well as some of the recoveries through our improvement initiatives. I think ultimately we saw quarter-on-quarter improvements as indicated there, but we still need to get back to around 80% on recovery, and we’re well on our target of achieving that.
So, as I said recently, we’re definitely seeing the updated improvements coming through, and certainly the grade recovery probably closer to 80% in the second part of the year.
Fahad Tariq (Analyst at Jefferies)
Okay, great. And then just switching gears to Great Bear on the AEX, can you talk a little bit about any risk to the, I guess, any First Nations pushback or permitting there, and if that does have any impact on the main project? Thanks.
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Yeah, sure, I’ll take that one. Just, you know, context is important here. I would say that, you know, we’ve really kind of got two separate permitting processes, one for AAX and one for the main project. You know, AAX is not critical to the main project. And I would also say that AAX is not under IAAC, which the main project is, and that’s been making a huge difference to us in terms of what we’re kind of seeing and what I would say on overall timing.
You know, main project permitting still remains on time at this date based on our project schedule, which we’ve shared with both the provincial and federal authorities. And then on the AAX side, I would say, as you know, those permits have been appealed by Grassy Narrows First Nation. They’re seeking a leave to appeal, but we wouldn’t expect to see a decision on that until later next year, you know, potentially in the first half. And, you know, in the meantime it’s been full steam ahead.
We’ve been able to significantly complete our AAX activity and we’re certainly not anticipating any delays at this point to our main project permitting, given they’re two separate processes, and we would expect the provincial authorities to assess those main project permits under their own merits. And I would also say that, you know, in that regard we’ve worked very closely with the authorities to ensure that we’re addressing other concerns of Grassy Narrows in those permits. And last but not least, and you know, there’s sort of been a lot of media about Grassy, but I would say that the bigger voice here is our traditional territory rights owners, Lac Seul and Wabauskang, on whose territory our project is located. They’ve been very supportive of AAX and further in support of our project overall.
And we’ve made significant progress on our IBA agreement negotiations and we see that, once we’ve sort of completed those negotiations, as being a big catalyst to facilitate the remaining permits that we require on the project. And on the IBA, as we’ve disclosed previously, we’ve sort of landed on the key financial metrics and compensatory elements for Nations, and now we’re sort of just focused on, you know, some of the softer issues or the non-financial provisions.
So we’re making excellent progress there and, you know, we would expect to get that agreement signed before we receive the final IAAC permit, and again see that as a potential facilitator for the remainder of the permitting on the project.
Fahad Tariq (Analyst at Jefferies)
Great. Very clear.
Carli (Operator)
Thank you. Your next question is from the line of Daniel Major with UBS.
Daniel Major (Analyst at UBS)
Hi there. Can you hear me okay? Hello. Great. Hey, and thanks—thanks for the questions. Yeah, I guess the first one, thinking about the trajectory of unit costs into 2027, you’ve got essentially, you know, flat production, and certainly external variables—energy, etcetera—look like there will be a consistent cost pressure. Would it be fair to assume that those unit costs are moving higher in this $50 to $100 an ounce sort of range based on current external variables?
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
I’ll take that one. It’s Andrea. So we typically provide costs just kind of one year out. It’s pretty difficult to make the call, in particular on inflation, longer than that. I think maybe important to note structurally, production is similar in 2027 to 2026. There’s a bit more production coming from the U.S. and some offsets elsewhere, but I don’t think that will have a significant impact on overall costs in ’27 versus ’26. We’re just in the budget process right now, but expect inflation to probably be similar to where it was this year, which was about a 5% factor that we had on our costs, with the one caveat that we’re continuing to watch where diesel prices go—oil price as well as the crack spread. So we don’t think that that currently has a big impact on this year, but we’re continuing to look at it as we go through the budget process.
Bernard Wessels (Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer)
Yeah, and I would just pile on there and just say completely support everything Andrea has just said. But we do also look through the windshield a little bit. One of the things we’re working on or executing is what we call our grade enhancement strategy. So, as we look through ’27 into ’28, ’29, that’s when the grade enhancement strategy starts to kick in. So we expect we’ll start to get the benefit of the underground grades at Phase X, the benefit of Curlew—we’ve got higher grades underground—and of course our mine plan has us approaching the bottom of the pit at Tasiast where we get back into the high grade.
So to Andrea’s point, operationally ’27 is a lot like ’26. We’ll keep going with efficiencies and everything we can do to manage that inflation, but looking through the windshield, we should have an organic offset.
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
Maybe I’ll just add back to 2027: we do also have hedges in place against the oil cost component of the diesel price in 2027. So we’re about 50% hedged for 2027.
Daniel Major (Analyst at UBS)
Okay, so you’re 50% hedged at what sort of level relative to this year’s trending diesel cost—in the low?
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
$60 a barrel, $65 a barrel.
Daniel Major (Analyst at UBS)
Okay, that’s very helpful, thank you. Second one, maybe just touching on Matt’s questions on CapEx—you guided 260 million, I think, in Great Bear this year. What should we be expecting for a run rate of CapEx into next year assuming the FID comes through in line with your expected timelines? And a similar question on Lobo, is that going to be incurring kind of pre-approval spend in ’27?
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Yeah, if you look back at what we disclosed with the PEA time, it’s got a bit of a profile there. So, obviously ’27, upon receipt of our federal permits, we go into significant construction. So we do expect that it ramps up meaningfully. It was in the 500 million range in that original PEA. Obviously that’s a few years dated now in terms of the value date for some of those quotes, so we expect that’ll be higher when we work in inflation. But next year starts to be a meaningful spend year at Great Bear; AAX as well with permitting.
Daniel Major (Analyst at UBS)
Got it. Okay, so the 500 million is from a timeline standpoint still valid, and then we should imply an inflation factor onto that. Is that the right way of thinking about it?
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Yeah, that’s what we’re thinking right now. And then Lobo-Marte, you know, isn’t into full construction next year—that’s more still early spend. So we’re still doing our budgeting work, but that’s not in the same scale next year. Really we’ll get into full construction later in ’28 into ’29. So it’s a little bit staggered behind right there.
Daniel Major (Analyst at UBS)
Okay, thanks.
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Look, again, our standard sort of response on that is we keep an awareness of what’s out there. We feel we’re in a pretty good position with our organic internal optionality. We’ve got over 40 million ounces of resource. And you recall last year one of the things we did is we brought a number of our U.S. brownfield projects out of that resource category through further drilling, further study, and we basically moved things out of resource into reserve.
So we’ve got lots of depth in the portfolio to keep advancing internally. But yes, we do keep an awareness and an eye on what’s out there. And again, we’ve got a fabulous balance sheet. We’ve got very strong cash flow. We’ve got a great internal resource optionality, so we don’t feel under pressure. So we do look, particularly if there’s a process or something’s going on, we’ll take a look at it. But if you look in the rear-view mirror, we’ve been pretty disciplined in terms of when we decide to move forward with M&A and that’ll continue.
We’re in a good position where we don’t need to do anything, but we can look and if we saw value creation opportunities, we’d look a little closer.
Carli (Operator)
Your next question is from Carrie McCurry with Canaccord Genuity.
Carrie McCurry (Analyst at Canaccord Genuity)
Good morning. Just a question on La Coipa. Just wondering in terms of the mine plan, like how long you expect to be mining in this area with high copper grades and just maybe more broadly, you know, how much of the mine plan contains that sort of ore.
Bernard Wessels (Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer)
Yeah, these really high copper sulfides are at the bottom of phase seven, which we’re planning to finish next year. Our current permit gets there. We do have resource out there in the future and, given the grades that we’re seeing, as we mentioned on the last call in September, we are looking at optionality really for the 30s. So this is stuff that would come in after LOM at the back of a flotation circuit or something like that for those resources and high copper grade sulfides that are below the pit.
But the current planned pit is just through 27. That’s why it’s had a limited impact on us.
Carrie McCurry (Analyst at Canaccord Genuity)
Okay. And I guess that’s why your 2020 guidance is still 2 million ounces, more or less. Yeah, your 2028 guidance still shows 2 million ounces. I guess you’re expecting not much of an impact then in 2028 from either Round Mountain or La Coipa.
Bernard Wessels (Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer)
Yeah, there’s no impact from phase seven or sulfides in 2028 because we plan to be done that next year anyways.
Carrie McCurry (Analyst at Canaccord Genuity)
Okay. And then just switching to Grapevine. Just wondering, you know, you got the decline progressing. Just wondering when you expect to be drilling from underground there.
Bernard Wessels (Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer)
Yeah, we think that’ll be early next year if everything stays on target. Right now we’ll start to get some early opportunities at the top end of the ore body to drill off in a couple areas. So we’re on track for doing that early next year.
Carrie McCurry (Analyst at Canaccord Genuity)
Okay, great. That’s it for me. Thanks.
Carli (Operator)
Your next question is from Tanya Jaconowic with Scotiabank.
Tanya Jaconowic (Analyst at Scotiabank)
Good morning. I think that’s me. Thank you for taking my question. Just wanted to circle back on costs if I could. Just looking at your input costs as you think about your 2027 guidance, can you comment on—and I think, Paul, you mentioned a tight labor market—can you comment on what you’re seeing in terms of your labor inflation and turnover? I think it was at about 10% for the company. I’m just trying to understand what that component is looking like and what your consumable inflation is looking like as well.
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
I can start, Tanya. I think on labor specifically—again, all of this is with the caveat that we’re just in the budget process right now—the average labor inflation, we’re thinking around 5–6%, but it’s not equal everywhere. So, as always, it’s typically higher in the U.S. and in Nevada, but we’re roughly seeing about on average in that kind of 5 to 6% range. And as I said, overall inflation around 5%.
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
And generally, just to add on, you know, as we’ve said many times, Tanya, Nevada tends to be our hottest market. There’s competition for everything—competition for people, competition for spares. It’s just there’s no currency benefit that we get in other places in the world. So. And as it turns out for us, again given the region, we tend to have a bit higher turnovers in Nevada. So all that keeps, I guess I would say, the Nevada market hot relative to some of the other markets that we’re dealing with around the world.
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
And we have signed labor agreements for our assets outside of the U.S., yeah.
Tanya Jaconowic (Analyst at Scotiabank)
And what about consumable?
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
Yeah, I was going to say, again, we break it down into our component parts. I mean, again, you can sort of pick your rule of thumb, but when you think about energy, labor and consumables—we’ve touched on energy, our hedge strategy, what we’ve been doing there, that’s been quite successful. That continues. Again, consumables—again, there’s a bit of ebb and flow, but nothing right now that we’re seeing that’s too dramatic, that’s concerning us.
Tanya Jaconowic (Analyst at Scotiabank)
Okay, so I can play around with the oil price assumption, but from a consumable side, there’s nothing for us to focus on. Maybe just on the capital side then. You mentioned again for Great Bear that we’ll have an update on capital with inflation plus this, you know, tightness in the labor market. So should I be, you know, thinking high level, you know, what we’ve seen, you know, historically for capex increases which have been, you know, up to like 20–30% from previous numbers.
Would that be something, you know, I’d be off from your 1.4 billion you put out in 2024.
Geoff Gold (President)
Yeah, yeah. I’ll start and Paul can pile on. I mean, obviously the biggest component of all of this would just be the true upward inflation. And you can kind of do the math from starting back in 2023. As you go beyond inflation, the next category would be, I would say, discretionary changes of scope or approach. Discretionary generally means we’re doing it for good reason. We see a value creation opportunity, we see an efficiency, we see a longer-term benefit.
So inflation, discretionary. And then I guess the last bucket I would say is more, you know, at the market today. And definitely, you know, it is a harder market in terms of attracting labor. Right now we’re anticipating that. And some of it goes back and forth. For example, you know, one of the things we’re thinking about as we look forward to Red Lake is our housing strategy, you know, and attracting the best people to a new project. Part of the equation will be what’s our plan, what’s our housing strategy, what will we offer in terms of—and those can impact your scope change. In the case of Red Lake, we’re looking at a balance of residential community within Red Lake as well as maintaining a camp to attract people that still would prefer that rotation.
And so there’s all kinds of things that go in there. In terms of tweaking adjustments, it will be up. I’m not going to sugarcoat that, but I think—and that’s important and we’ll always keep a sharp eye on that. But as well, I do want to say, as you know, when you look at the production, the margin and the cash flow, the payback on this project has always been pretty incredible in terms of, you know, months really. So even with some additional capital, we’re going to be—this is what I would call a particularly capital-insensitive project given production margins and cash flow.
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Yeah, I know we really are. Given the long-term potential we see there, we really are focused on building this right from the start and doing all the things Paul spoke about to make sure we have the talent to achieve that. You know, you’ve seen the numbers, but it’s a 500,000-ounce-a-year producer. So the cash flow on that with the AISC is significant and gives us a really strong payback. We don’t have a definitive number yet because we are only 55% of the way through our detailed engineering.
We’re just only now starting the procurement process for our major contractors. So we’ll be able to answer the question specifically much better in H1 of next year. But again, we’re just focused on getting the detailed engineering done and making sure we’re building a resilient asset given the multi-decade potential we see there.
Tanya Jaconowic (Analyst at Scotiabank)
Yeah, no, it was just more like to try and get a sense—like I’m not going to wake up to a doubling of capital versus, you know, something that has been more in the industry in that 20–30%.
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
Yeah, I mean when we did the PEA we were at 1.4 plus 400 on the AEX, so we’re not expecting a full double of that, but it’s early in the process so we really need to get to next year to give you a better sense.
Tanya Jaconowic (Analyst at Scotiabank)
Okay, and then my final question is how are you thinking about your reserve and resource pricing and your cutoff grade as we get closer to year end? And you’re looking at your mine plans for life-of-mine plans in 2027? I mean,
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Yeah, sure. Maybe you want to take that one, Will, or I can.
Will Dunford
Yeah, we’re doing the process right now, so we haven’t finalized yet, but for us we tend to look a lot at three-year trailing. We think that’s a pretty relevant piece of information that we like to track and follow. So obviously that’s up. So we’re now considering kind of a relative ratio, increasing our reserve and resource price. We haven’t picked the final number yet, but we do expect it should raise up to be realistic to the investment environment and the gold prices that we’ve seen.
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Yeah, and again just for context, the three-year average is still significantly below spot. So I think as you’ve seen, the pattern has been sort of a drag—a drag up over time with some significant discount to where we are at spot. I wouldn’t expect any sort of material changes from there. The bigger point, though, which is really important that we want to stress, is around cutoff grades, and as we’ve said many times, we have no intention to drop our cutoff grades. We are looking at cutoff grades in long-term stockpiles for something that we might put in at the end of the mine life, mill life, that sort of thing. But generally speaking, you know, our mills are full, we’ve got all the grade we need, and we have no requirement or need, if you will, to drop our cutoff grades to keep our mills full.
So you’ll see a kind of a lagging revenue line adjustment with reserve/resource pricing which is, I would say, in line with the trend in the last few years as well—think along the lines of a three-year rolling average. Don’t expect us to be doing anything dramatic with cutoff grades.
Tanya Jaconowic (Analyst at Scotiabank)
Okay. It’s just the three-year rolling average is over 3,000. So that would be a big move from 2,000 to three. Okay.
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Yeah, we don’t go right at the three-year trailing. The point is, you know, to stay consistent. We were at a historic discount to the three-year trailing last year with our reserve price. We will probably still be at a historic discount to the three-year trailing this year. But the point is to try and incrementally move up in a ratio that’s similar to what the gold price is doing. Doesn’t mean going right to it.
Tanya Jaconowic (Analyst at Scotiabank)
Understood. Thank you for taking my questions.
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Thank you.
Carli (Operator)
Your next question is from Lawson Winder with Bank of America.
Lawson Winder (Analyst at Bank of America)
Thank you very much, operator, and good morning, Paul and team. I appreciate you fitting me in. I recognize we’re running a little bit over time here, so I’ll just keep it to two, maybe, questions. So one is just the cost sensitivity on the Chilean peso. Should we read anything into that change? It’s now a $60 per ounce sensitivity for a 10% FX move. Just a bit surprising given the less production from Chile this year. And then I would just ask a follow-up on capital return.
Andrea Freeborough (Chief Financial Officer)
I think it’s really just the denominator impact that we’re seeing there. The cost mix is similar. So that was really what was behind that.
Lawson Winder (Analyst at Bank of America)
Okay, fair enough. So nothing major to read into, and then just dividend. So last year at this time and in February of this year, the dividend was bumped up quite materially. Do you consider further dividend increases as a sensible path to return of capital? Or perhaps does the preference now lie with using the buyback as a preferred method for capital return? Thank you.
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
I don’t think our narrative has changed around the return of capital philosophy as it relates to buyback versus dividend. You’re quite right. We believe the dividend should be kind of a forever commitment, if I can call it that. We have moved it up twice, to your point. I think we were up probably over 30% since last year. But we’re careful. As we move the dividend up, we expect it to stay up. We see more opportunity to lean in and out and do more substantial amounts with a buyback. And so if you look at our trend, we’ve had this baseline dividend; we have increased that baseline dividend. But where we’ve really taken advantage is to lean into the buyback by increasing the buyback. And we think that’s the right policy, right philosophy for us today. We think that’s what our shareholders prefer today.
And I would guide you to expect we’ll continue to think about it in that way going forward.
Lawson Winder (Analyst at Bank of America)
Okay. Thank you very much.
Carli (Operator)
Again, if you would like to ask a question, press star-one on your telephone keypad. There are no further questions at this time. I’ll now turn the call back to Paul Rowlandson for any closing remarks.
Paul Rowlandson (Chief Executive Officer)
Thank you, operator. Thanks, everyone, for joining us. We look forward to catching up with you in person in the coming weeks. Thanks very much.
Carli (Operator)
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.
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